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	<title>Comments on: Ralph Cicerone on climate study to help determine U.S. policy</title>
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		<title>By: Norman Phillips</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/science-studies-to-determine-climate-choices/comment-page-1#comment-13845</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pattern of global warming fits the role of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide.  Water vapor is a very effective greenhouse gas, and large amounts of water vapor typical of low latitudes mask the effect of other greenhouse gases.  This leads to a maximum of global warming where the air has least water vapor, such at high latitudes and high altitudes.             
         If solar variation were the dominant effect, on the other hand, the warming would be a maximum in low latitudes, where the annual averaged solar radiation reaches a maximum. 
------ N Phillips, retired Principal Scientist, NOAA.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pattern of global warming fits the role of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide.  Water vapor is a very effective greenhouse gas, and large amounts of water vapor typical of low latitudes mask the effect of other greenhouse gases.  This leads to a maximum of global warming where the air has least water vapor, such at high latitudes and high altitudes.<br />
         If solar variation were the dominant effect, on the other hand, the warming would be a maximum in low latitudes, where the annual averaged solar radiation reaches a maximum.<br />
&#8212;&#8212; N Phillips, retired Principal Scientist, NOAA.</p>
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		<title>By: mememine69</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Dr David Evans was a consultant to the Australian Greenhouse Office from 1999 to 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
I &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;DEVOTED&lt;/span&gt; six years to carbon accounting, building models for the Australian Greenhouse Office. I am the rocket scientist who wrote the carbon accounting model (FullCAM) that measures Australia&#8217;s compliance with the Kyoto Protocol, in the land use change and forestry sector.&lt;br /&gt;
FullCAM models carbon flows in plants, mulch, debris, soils and agricultural products, using inputs such as climate data, plant physiology and satellite data. I&#8217;ve been following the global warming debate closely for years. &lt;br /&gt;
When I started that job in 1999 the evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming seemed pretty good: CO2 is a greenhouse gas, the old ice core data, no other suspects. &lt;br /&gt;
2. There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming. None. There is plenty of evidence that global warming has occurred, and theory suggests that carbon emissions should raise temperatures (though by how much is hotly disputed) but there are no observations by anyone that implicate carbon emissions as a significant cause of the recent global warming.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr David Evans was a consultant to the Australian Greenhouse Office from 1999 to 2005.<br />
I <span class="caps">DEVOTED</span> six years to carbon accounting, building models for the Australian Greenhouse Office. I am the rocket scientist who wrote the carbon accounting model (FullCAM) that measures Australia&#8217;s compliance with the Kyoto Protocol, in the land use change and forestry sector.<br />
FullCAM models carbon flows in plants, mulch, debris, soils and agricultural products, using inputs such as climate data, plant physiology and satellite data. I&#8217;ve been following the global warming debate closely for years. <br />
When I started that job in 1999 the evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming seemed pretty good: CO2 is a greenhouse gas, the old ice core data, no other suspects. <br />
2. There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming. None. There is plenty of evidence that global warming has occurred, and theory suggests that carbon emissions should raise temperatures (though by how much is hotly disputed) but there are no observations by anyone that implicate carbon emissions as a significant cause of the recent global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Napier</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/science-studies-to-determine-climate-choices/comment-page-1#comment-5022</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Napier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;There is no &#8220;urgency&#8221; to curb the use of &#8220;fossil&#8221; fuels. None whatsoever. There is no global warming, manmade or otherwise. If you will look at our United States Constitution, sworn to be upheld by every elected official in the government, you will find no powers granted to control environment or the economy. &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;And that is what it is about. Power. the envronment is fine. The economy would be fine if left alone and private property rights were respected by those in power. People will manage their own property to their own best advantage. And as Adam Smith said: &#8220;The invisible hand&#8221; will work in a way that will benefit all. The other side of the page is what was called  the &#8220;tragedy of the commons.&#8221; Basically, if everyone owns it, no one cares and it goes to hell. That is reality.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no &#8220;urgency&#8221; to curb the use of &#8220;fossil&#8221; fuels. None whatsoever. There is no global warming, manmade or otherwise. If you will look at our United States Constitution, sworn to be upheld by every elected official in the government, you will find no powers granted to control environment or the economy. </p>
<p>And that is what it is about. Power. the envronment is fine. The economy would be fine if left alone and private property rights were respected by those in power. People will manage their own property to their own best advantage. And as Adam Smith said: &#8220;The invisible hand&#8221; will work in a way that will benefit all. The other side of the page is what was called  the &#8220;tragedy of the commons.&#8221; Basically, if everyone owns it, no one cares and it goes to hell. That is reality.</p>
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