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	<title>Comments on: Private: Climate close to tipping point, says Hansen</title>
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		<title>By: Steven Alexander</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/climate-close-to-tipping-point-says-hansen/comment-page-1#comment-4322</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;My kids and I looked at Venus tonight thru their kid telescope. What looked like one star in the sky appeared as four in the scope. What else were we seeing?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Steven&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: Tina Williams</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/climate-close-to-tipping-point-says-hansen/comment-page-1#comment-4280</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;What would be the difference in size between a regular meteor and a fireball?  The fireballs are amazing to see and so visible irregardless of how dark it is that night.&lt;br /&gt;
Tina&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be the difference in size between a regular meteor and a fireball?  The fireballs are amazing to see and so visible irregardless of how dark it is that night.<br />
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/climate-close-to-tipping-point-says-hansen/comment-page-1#comment-4341</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Earl Salmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;The globalization of the &#8220;American Dream&#8221; is actually nothing more than a dream, is it not?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The globalization of the &#8220;American Dream&#8221; is actually nothing more than a dream, is it not?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Salmony</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/climate-close-to-tipping-point-says-hansen/comment-page-1#comment-4332</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Salmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;What if ideology is &#8220;blinding&#8221; denialists to the virtual mountains of good scientific evidence of global warming and climate change?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;The astounding, clearly visible, pernicious impacts of human overconsumption and overproduction activities of 6 billion (soon to become 9 billion) human beings upon Earth&#8217;s environment and its body of resources are overpowering and soon to be patently unsustainable, I suppose.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;How much longer can the relatively small planet we inhabit withstand the colossal ravage being dealt to it in our time by human hands?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Steven Earl Salmony&lt;br /&gt;
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population, established 2001&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if ideology is &#8220;blinding&#8221; denialists to the virtual mountains of good scientific evidence of global warming and climate change?</p>
<p>The astounding, clearly visible, pernicious impacts of human overconsumption and overproduction activities of 6 billion (soon to become 9 billion) human beings upon Earth&#8217;s environment and its body of resources are overpowering and soon to be patently unsustainable, I suppose.</p>
<p>How much longer can the relatively small planet we inhabit withstand the colossal ravage being dealt to it in our time by human hands?</p>
<p>Steven Earl Salmony<br />
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population, established 2001</p>
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		<title>By: stevenearlsalmony</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/climate-close-to-tipping-point-says-hansen/comment-page-1#comment-4316</link>
		<dc:creator>stevenearlsalmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Dear Friends,&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;One of the points I am feebly trying to make is simply this: the adamant and relentless pursuit of fossil fuel-based economic globalization, marked so starkly as it is by the rampant expansion of unbridled, large-scale business activities we are seeing overspread Earth in our time, could result either in impending ecologic calamities or economic disasters, or both, in these early years of Century &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;XXI&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Always,&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Steve&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends,</p>
<p>One of the points I am feebly trying to make is simply this: the adamant and relentless pursuit of fossil fuel-based economic globalization, marked so starkly as it is by the rampant expansion of unbridled, large-scale business activities we are seeing overspread Earth in our time, could result either in impending ecologic calamities or economic disasters, or both, in these early years of Century <span class="caps">XXI</span>.</p>
<p>Always,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Salmony</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/climate-close-to-tipping-point-says-hansen/comment-page-1#comment-4300</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Salmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Dear Tom,&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comments, especially the ones regarding your recognition that we need to &#8220;wake up and change the paradigm.&#8221; &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;If the family of humanity continues to choose overpopulating Earth; if we keep conspicuously overconsuming limited resources; and if we endlessly expand big-business activities and pollute the relatively small planet God blesses to inhabit, and not to ravage as we are doing now, then a good enough future for our children cannot be assured, can it?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Sincerely,&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Steve&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Steven Earl Salmony&lt;br /&gt;
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population, established 2001&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments, especially the ones regarding your recognition that we need to &#8220;wake up and change the paradigm.&#8221; </p>
<p>If the family of humanity continues to choose overpopulating Earth; if we keep conspicuously overconsuming limited resources; and if we endlessly expand big-business activities and pollute the relatively small planet God blesses to inhabit, and not to ravage as we are doing now, then a good enough future for our children cannot be assured, can it?</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
<p>Steven Earl Salmony<br />
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population, established 2001</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hughes</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/climate-close-to-tipping-point-says-hansen/comment-page-1#comment-4299</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Hurray for Mr. Kunstler, My train system design would revolutionize the planet.My energy system would revolutionize the planet,my trash control system would revolutionize the planet and on and on it goes. Until we get rid of all of the foreign influences in our governing of the US,we will not win on any of these issues. How long have progressive people been beaten down? Mr. Gates,give me access to your foundations money and I will build you one hell of a Gates Memorial Rail System,philanthropy should wake up and change the paradigm,we dont need more parks and hospital wings Mr. Gates,we need visionaries with logic and the drive to enhance the system and at least get us into the new millenium,because we really are behind.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurray for Mr. Kunstler, My train system design would revolutionize the planet.My energy system would revolutionize the planet,my trash control system would revolutionize the planet and on and on it goes. Until we get rid of all of the foreign influences in our governing of the US,we will not win on any of these issues. How long have progressive people been beaten down? Mr. Gates,give me access to your foundations money and I will build you one hell of a Gates Memorial Rail System,philanthropy should wake up and change the paradigm,we dont need more parks and hospital wings Mr. Gates,we need visionaries with logic and the drive to enhance the system and at least get us into the new millenium,because we really are behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/climate-close-to-tipping-point-says-hansen/comment-page-1#comment-4279</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Hi Everyone,&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I just wanted to address Bob&#8217;s comment about the Rich being smart.  I used to think this for many years and spent quite a bit of time in self-reflection and critical analysis of why I could not generate the wealth of the Rich.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Ferdinand Lundberg in his book: The Rich and the Super Rich put my mind at ease when he outlined that the authors of the problems we face are all members of the same family.  They are not smart &#8211; they are simply cunning, ruthless and criminal (not my words, Mr. Lundberg&#8217;s)  These are the only reasons why they are rich.  Hard work being rewarded is a myth to keep you reaching for the golden carrot on the stick.  Mr. Lundberg said in no uncertain terms that smart people for the most part are never rich.  One simple test for this is how many Nobel Prize winners, teachers, professors do you know who are billionaires?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I am sure that no one wants politics to taint science (in the lab or on message boards), but the fact that science is bought and controlled obviates any puritan views on that.  The final point being that unless this power structure is dissolved then all of the problems that come as a result of it will never be resolved.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Everyone,</p>
<p>I just wanted to address Bob&#8217;s comment about the Rich being smart.  I used to think this for many years and spent quite a bit of time in self-reflection and critical analysis of why I could not generate the wealth of the Rich.</p>
<p>Ferdinand Lundberg in his book: The Rich and the Super Rich put my mind at ease when he outlined that the authors of the problems we face are all members of the same family.  They are not smart &#8211; they are simply cunning, ruthless and criminal (not my words, Mr. Lundberg&#8217;s)  These are the only reasons why they are rich.  Hard work being rewarded is a myth to keep you reaching for the golden carrot on the stick.  Mr. Lundberg said in no uncertain terms that smart people for the most part are never rich.  One simple test for this is how many Nobel Prize winners, teachers, professors do you know who are billionaires?</p>
<p>I am sure that no one wants politics to taint science (in the lab or on message boards), but the fact that science is bought and controlled obviates any puritan views on that.  The final point being that unless this power structure is dissolved then all of the problems that come as a result of it will never be resolved.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Somebody from John Hopkins wanted to put sulfates in the atmosphere.  I couldn&#8217;t find that story again to post to it.  But this is a good a place as any.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Doesn&#8217;t anyone watch &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;NOVA&lt;/span&gt; on PBS?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;They had a show on Global Dimming.  There are so many suspended particulates &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ALREADY&lt;/span&gt; in the air that the sun&#8217;s rays are being reflected.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THIS&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;MEANS&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THAT&lt;/span&gt; IF WE &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ARE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CURRENTLY&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HEATING&lt;/span&gt; UP &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THAT&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;PROBLEM&lt;/span&gt; IS &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;EVEN&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BIGGER&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THAN&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;PEOPLE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THINK&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BECAUSE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THERE&lt;/span&gt; IS A &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;COUNTERBALANCING&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;FORCE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;KEEPING&lt;/span&gt; IT &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;FROM&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BEING&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;EVEN&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HOTTER&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;This means that particulates and gasses will have to be decreased &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SIMULTANEOUSLY&lt;/span&gt;.  This is called homeostasis.  The planet knows what to do and how to do it.  James Burke warned that we were in for a roast in the 1990&#8217;s with his series After The Warming.  I guess no one was listening to him then, either.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BUT&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THESE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ARE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ALL&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RED&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HERRINGS&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;AND&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;NOT&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;PROBLEM&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;I was really dismayed by the poor journalism I heard on Earth and Sky with the hairbrained suggestion that &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ADDITIONAL&lt;/span&gt; particulates could be put in the atmosphere to reflect &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;EVEN&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;MORE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SUNLIGHT&lt;/span&gt;.  The suggested compound was sulfates.  Now, nothing stays up there forever (even asteroids) so if these sulfates get down into the oceans what will that do to the pH?&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;A text on photosynthesis stated that with the present rate of CO2 interaction with the oceans that they will go acidic in about 20 years, more phytoplankton will die, less carbon will be fixed, less oxygen produced and the problem will spiral out of control &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;BECAUSE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THERE&lt;/span&gt; IS NO &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;PLAN&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;FOR&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;FIXING&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THE&lt;/span&gt; pH of the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;OCEAN&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;This is the only problem people should be working on.  If the ocean pH changes&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;GAME&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;OVER&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody from John Hopkins wanted to put sulfates in the atmosphere.  I couldn&#8217;t find that story again to post to it.  But this is a good a place as any.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t anyone watch <span class="caps">NOVA</span> on PBS?</p>
<p>They had a show on Global Dimming.  There are so many suspended particulates <span class="caps">ALREADY</span> in the air that the sun&#8217;s rays are being reflected.</p>
<p><span class="caps">THIS</span> <span class="caps">MEANS</span> <span class="caps">THAT</span> IF WE <span class="caps">ARE</span> <span class="caps">CURRENTLY</span> <span class="caps">HEATING</span> UP <span class="caps">THAT</span> <span class="caps">THE</span> <span class="caps">PROBLEM</span> IS <span class="caps">EVEN</span> <span class="caps">BIGGER</span> <span class="caps">THAN</span> <span class="caps">PEOPLE</span> <span class="caps">THINK</span> <span class="caps">BECAUSE</span> <span class="caps">THERE</span> IS A <span class="caps">COUNTERBALANCING</span> <span class="caps">FORCE</span> <span class="caps">KEEPING</span> IT <span class="caps">FROM</span> <span class="caps">BEING</span> <span class="caps">EVEN</span> <span class="caps">HOTTER</span>.</p>
<p>This means that particulates and gasses will have to be decreased <span class="caps">SIMULTANEOUSLY</span>.  This is called homeostasis.  The planet knows what to do and how to do it.  James Burke warned that we were in for a roast in the 1990&#8217;s with his series After The Warming.  I guess no one was listening to him then, either.</p>
<p><span class="caps">BUT</span> <span class="caps">THESE</span> <span class="caps">ARE</span> <span class="caps">ALL</span> <span class="caps">RED</span> <span class="caps">HERRINGS</span> <span class="caps">AND</span> <span class="caps">NOT</span> <span class="caps">THE</span> <span class="caps">PROBLEM</span>.</p>
<p>I was really dismayed by the poor journalism I heard on Earth and Sky with the hairbrained suggestion that <span class="caps">ADDITIONAL</span> particulates could be put in the atmosphere to reflect <span class="caps">EVEN</span> <span class="caps">MORE</span> <span class="caps">SUNLIGHT</span>.  The suggested compound was sulfates.  Now, nothing stays up there forever (even asteroids) so if these sulfates get down into the oceans what will that do to the pH?</p>
<p>A text on photosynthesis stated that with the present rate of CO2 interaction with the oceans that they will go acidic in about 20 years, more phytoplankton will die, less carbon will be fixed, less oxygen produced and the problem will spiral out of control <span class="caps">BECAUSE</span> <span class="caps">THERE</span> IS NO <span class="caps">PLAN</span> <span class="caps">FOR</span> <span class="caps">FIXING</span> <span class="caps">THE</span> pH of the <span class="caps">OCEAN</span>.</p>
<p>This is the only problem people should be working on.  If the ocean pH changes&#8230;</p>
<p><span class="caps">GAME</span> <span class="caps">OVER</span>.</p>
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		<title>By: stevenearlsalmony</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevenearlsalmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Dear Trinifar (and Deborah Byrd, Beverly Spicer and Bruce McClure),&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;All of you are doing great work.  It seems to me that you are doing precisely what needs to be done in our time.  Keep going. We are going to make a difference, one that makes a difference, for the sake of the children.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Trinifar, thanks for your kind words.  Your intelligence and vision are uncommon, your efforts exemplary.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Sincerely,&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Steve&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Steven Earl Salmony&lt;br /&gt;
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population, established 2001&lt;br /&gt;
http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Trinifar (and Deborah Byrd, Beverly Spicer and Bruce McClure),</p>
<p>All of you are doing great work.  It seems to me that you are doing precisely what needs to be done in our time.  Keep going. We are going to make a difference, one that makes a difference, for the sake of the children.</p>
<p>Trinifar, thanks for your kind words.  Your intelligence and vision are uncommon, your efforts exemplary.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
<p>Steven Earl Salmony<br />
AWAREness Campaign on The Human Population, established 2001<br />
<a href="http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilitysoutheast.org/</a></p>
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