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	<title>Comments on: Mark Mehos explains Concentrating Solar Power technology</title>
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		<title>By: Cibequide</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/energy/mark-mehos-explains-concentrating-solar-power-technology/comment-page-1#comment-201055</link>
		<dc:creator>Cibequide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets have some fun and go wild.</description>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/energy/mark-mehos-explains-concentrating-solar-power-technology/comment-page-1#comment-13019</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry,

I think your estimate of a 30% alteration might be a bit high. Most scientists agree that man&#039;s contribution to aerosols and green house gasses, or the atmosphere&#039;s anthropogenic constituent, amounts to approximately 1%. What is being intensely studied in climatology circles is the climate&#039;s sensitivity is to that 1%. This is important because the climate&#039;s sensitivity then determines how much the &quot;radiative budget&quot; and thus the solar equilibrium is affected by man&#039;s activities.

Climate sensitivity is not very well understood simply because it is a chaotic system with many short term and long term natural cycles and non-linear behaviors and interactions. Before climate sensitivity to the anthropogenic content of the atmosphere can be fully nailed down we need to have a better understanding of the natural climate variations and sensitivities to factor them correctly. We&#039;re not quite there yet but we are getting closer. From the body of more recent peer reviewed literature, there is growing evidence that climate sensitivity to anthropogenic agents is not as high as previously believed and may be closer to 1/4 that suggested in the IPCC&#039;s 2007 AR4 report.

My point is I don&#039;t think solar and wind harvest will unsettle the solar equilibrium simply because any effect the development of wind and solar energy has on the atmospheric constituents and solar insolation is negligible in the whole of our planet&#039;s radiative mechanisms and their sensitivity to man&#039;s activities. When you consider the small percentage of the earth&#039;s total land mass solar and wind farms would take up then consider how small the contribution of earth&#039;s land mass is to the total radiative budget, it seems that adding a few solar and wind farms here and there won&#039;t upset the apple cart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>I think your estimate of a 30% alteration might be a bit high. Most scientists agree that man&#8217;s contribution to aerosols and green house gasses, or the atmosphere&#8217;s anthropogenic constituent, amounts to approximately 1%. What is being intensely studied in climatology circles is the climate&#8217;s sensitivity is to that 1%. This is important because the climate&#8217;s sensitivity then determines how much the &#8220;radiative budget&#8221; and thus the solar equilibrium is affected by man&#8217;s activities.</p>
<p>Climate sensitivity is not very well understood simply because it is a chaotic system with many short term and long term natural cycles and non-linear behaviors and interactions. Before climate sensitivity to the anthropogenic content of the atmosphere can be fully nailed down we need to have a better understanding of the natural climate variations and sensitivities to factor them correctly. We&#8217;re not quite there yet but we are getting closer. From the body of more recent peer reviewed literature, there is growing evidence that climate sensitivity to anthropogenic agents is not as high as previously believed and may be closer to 1/4 that suggested in the IPCC&#8217;s 2007 AR4 report.</p>
<p>My point is I don&#8217;t think solar and wind harvest will unsettle the solar equilibrium simply because any effect the development of wind and solar energy has on the atmospheric constituents and solar insolation is negligible in the whole of our planet&#8217;s radiative mechanisms and their sensitivity to man&#8217;s activities. When you consider the small percentage of the earth&#8217;s total land mass solar and wind farms would take up then consider how small the contribution of earth&#8217;s land mass is to the total radiative budget, it seems that adding a few solar and wind farms here and there won&#8217;t upset the apple cart.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/energy/mark-mehos-explains-concentrating-solar-power-technology/comment-page-1#comment-13007</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry l. litton</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/energy/mark-mehos-explains-concentrating-solar-power-technology/comment-page-1#comment-12991</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry l. litton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe solar and wind harvest will unsettle the solar equillibrium. I believe therre is already present near a 30% alteration of the solar equillibrium and budget and that atmospheric aerosol content and distribution is adding earth heat, especially the aerosol matter in suspention in above cloud zones, sensing solar radaint distribution that would usually pass-through without heat intensity introduction. Aerosol masses are not only gasseous, but include synthetic matter such as microscopic tire material, and frictinal produced metal and non-metal wear of transportation sources. These materials when intact are controlled but when issolated in microscopic size are indeed a problem, a cause of much of our global temperture elevations. Aircraft a very large but not alone as a contributor of upper atmosphere polutants have not been limited but must be, along with many other contaminants producers at ground level, that produce chemical and frictional micro and macro sized, lighter than air/gas combinations we breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe solar and wind harvest will unsettle the solar equillibrium. I believe therre is already present near a 30% alteration of the solar equillibrium and budget and that atmospheric aerosol content and distribution is adding earth heat, especially the aerosol matter in suspention in above cloud zones, sensing solar radaint distribution that would usually pass-through without heat intensity introduction. Aerosol masses are not only gasseous, but include synthetic matter such as microscopic tire material, and frictinal produced metal and non-metal wear of transportation sources. These materials when intact are controlled but when issolated in microscopic size are indeed a problem, a cause of much of our global temperture elevations. Aircraft a very large but not alone as a contributor of upper atmosphere polutants have not been limited but must be, along with many other contaminants producers at ground level, that produce chemical and frictional micro and macro sized, lighter than air/gas combinations we breath.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Byrd</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/energy/mark-mehos-explains-concentrating-solar-power-technology/comment-page-1#comment-12952</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Byrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hank, it&#039;s a complicated world, isn&#039;t it?  EarthSky doesn&#039;t report on environmental debates - we interview scientists.  But it sounds interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hank, it&#8217;s a complicated world, isn&#8217;t it?  EarthSky doesn&#8217;t report on environmental debates &#8211; we interview scientists.  But it sounds interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/energy/mark-mehos-explains-concentrating-solar-power-technology/comment-page-1#comment-12950</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a strong proponent of building out solar trough / turbine powered generation plants as a future piece of a multifaceted solution to our growing energy needs. Curiously, that places me at odds with many environmentalists in my neck of the woods (or desert in my case).

Here in Nevada, most solar power plant applications are stalled in the BLM amidst hot (no pun intended) environmental debate. The main issue is &quot;Energy Sprawl.&quot;  Here is a good environmental research article that sums up the problem and concern:

Climate Policy Impacts on Natural Habitat for the United States of America - [http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0006802#pone-0006802-g004]

The question I have is how are we going to transition to renewables if those, who in word, support government policy to force industry to transition are the same individuals who, in action, staunchly oppose it happening? Perhaps E&amp;S could do a piece on this important and seemingly counterintuitive environmental debate. Specifically, an objective look at how we might balance land use issues in the pursuit of clean energy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a strong proponent of building out solar trough / turbine powered generation plants as a future piece of a multifaceted solution to our growing energy needs. Curiously, that places me at odds with many environmentalists in my neck of the woods (or desert in my case).</p>
<p>Here in Nevada, most solar power plant applications are stalled in the BLM amidst hot (no pun intended) environmental debate. The main issue is &#8220;Energy Sprawl.&#8221;  Here is a good environmental research article that sums up the problem and concern:</p>
<p>Climate Policy Impacts on Natural Habitat for the United States of America &#8211; [http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0006802#pone-0006802-g004]</p>
<p>The question I have is how are we going to transition to renewables if those, who in word, support government policy to force industry to transition are the same individuals who, in action, staunchly oppose it happening? Perhaps E&#038;S could do a piece on this important and seemingly counterintuitive environmental debate. Specifically, an objective look at how we might balance land use issues in the pursuit of clean energy.</p>
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