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	<title>Comments on: Steve Brusatte says dinosaurs were not special, just lucky</title>
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		<title>By: RockWhisperer</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/paleontologist-dinosaurs-not-special-just-lucky/comment-page-1#comment-5549</link>
		<dc:creator>RockWhisperer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Scientist measure. That&#8217;s what we do. We make observations, ask questions, formulate hypothesis, then design tests to prove or disprove our hypotheses. A good hypothesis is one that can be tested. A well designed experiment allows measurements to be made and data collected that will test the original hypotheses. The data is analyzed and the original hypotheses are substantiated or modified based upon these results. We share our findings and interpretations with all and all are welcome to substantiate the original findings or provide new data and observations to disprove or once again modify the original hypotheses. Scientist are healthy skeptics and for hypotheses to gain acceptance the observation and results must be repeatable, the data accurate, and the conclusions based upon sound reasoning. Eventually, all hypotheses of any significance will be tested by others. Theories that are flawed, for whatever reasons (e.g., poor assumptions) and no longer can explain the data/observations made are eventually exposed and discarded in favor of new ones. In this way, and because scientist measure&#8230;people&#8217;s understanding of the universe continues to grow and this enriches all of us.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientist measure. That&#8217;s what we do. We make observations, ask questions, formulate hypothesis, then design tests to prove or disprove our hypotheses. A good hypothesis is one that can be tested. A well designed experiment allows measurements to be made and data collected that will test the original hypotheses. The data is analyzed and the original hypotheses are substantiated or modified based upon these results. We share our findings and interpretations with all and all are welcome to substantiate the original findings or provide new data and observations to disprove or once again modify the original hypotheses. Scientist are healthy skeptics and for hypotheses to gain acceptance the observation and results must be repeatable, the data accurate, and the conclusions based upon sound reasoning. Eventually, all hypotheses of any significance will be tested by others. Theories that are flawed, for whatever reasons (e.g., poor assumptions) and no longer can explain the data/observations made are eventually exposed and discarded in favor of new ones. In this way, and because scientist measure&#8230;people&#8217;s understanding of the universe continues to grow and this enriches all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/paleontologist-dinosaurs-not-special-just-lucky/comment-page-1#comment-5548</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Yes, thank you,:)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, thank you,:)</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay Patterson</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/paleontologist-dinosaurs-not-special-just-lucky/comment-page-1#comment-5545</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Are you looking for, &#8220;So what&#8217;s the bottom line?&#8221; &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you looking for, &#8220;So what&#8217;s the bottom line?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/paleontologist-dinosaurs-not-special-just-lucky/comment-page-1#comment-5544</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Can anyone help me clarify the word of the question that Deborah raised in the last paragraph? &#8220;Deborah: So, what&#8217;s about the _______?&#8221; &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone help me clarify the word of the question that Deborah raised in the last paragraph? &#8220;Deborah: So, what&#8217;s about the _______?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/paleontologist-dinosaurs-not-special-just-lucky/comment-page-1#comment-5477</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;It&#8217;s the old Bible vs. Science wars again. Here are some things to think about to expand your views:&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;1) The Bible was never intended to be a reference manual on science. Where it speaks to science, it does so only in very limited terms and is framed in the contexts of the time and culture wherein it was written. It should not be used to prove or disprove science as to do so involves application beyond purpose. It is an instruction manual on how to live a fulfilled life and to know the heart of God in a personal way if you are convinced of His existience.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;2) By strict definition, science can only explain function. However, practically speaking, science doesnâ€™t really work so narrowly confined. It necessarily engages quasi-religion and philosophy to formulate hypothesis on very deep and profound questions that seek answers far beyond our understanding. Such questions involve a form of faith on the part of the scientist to consider the possibilities of other dimensions, states, and continuums that, in reality, may or may not exist. Such faith is what pushes science towards greater discoveries. Without it, we would still be teaching in science class that the earth is carried on the back of a turtle. So to say science is a religion is a somewhat misguided criticism. To say that science doesn&#8217;t benefit from faith and belief is equally errored.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;3) Science cannot assign purpose and meaning to things. This must be relegated to the realm of philosophy and religion. To understand function without purpose and meaning is empty. To assign purpose and meaning without a desire to understand function is equally empty. In the context of these demarcations, science and religion complete our understandings of our internal and external worlds. Where they appear to differ in conclusion is a matter of our having attempted to answer a question using the wrong reference. &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;4) Most models and theories are built around beliefs that seek justification. Only when a model or theory is proven by empirical evidence and repeatable methods of observation (experiments) does it gain the status of knowledge (or fact). The philosopher Richard Kirkham offered perhaps the most concise definition of knowledge. It is where the â€œjustification for the belief must be infallible.â€ If any doubt exists or the belief is built on pseudo-evidence, the knowledge cannot be sustained and cannot be held as fact. So we must be careful about what we state as fact and knowledge for they may be only faith and belief.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Show me an individual who distains the contributions of science or religion and I&#8217;ll show you an arrogant, intolerant, and narrow minded person who understand neither.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Oh and yes, the dinosaurs were lucky. We are even luckier that their luck ran out. As an avid hiker and camper, Iâ€™m so relieved that I donâ€™t have to worry about being stalked by the likes of T-Rex when on the trail.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the old Bible vs. Science wars again. Here are some things to think about to expand your views:</p>
<p>1) The Bible was never intended to be a reference manual on science. Where it speaks to science, it does so only in very limited terms and is framed in the contexts of the time and culture wherein it was written. It should not be used to prove or disprove science as to do so involves application beyond purpose. It is an instruction manual on how to live a fulfilled life and to know the heart of God in a personal way if you are convinced of His existience.</p>
<p>2) By strict definition, science can only explain function. However, practically speaking, science doesnâ€™t really work so narrowly confined. It necessarily engages quasi-religion and philosophy to formulate hypothesis on very deep and profound questions that seek answers far beyond our understanding. Such questions involve a form of faith on the part of the scientist to consider the possibilities of other dimensions, states, and continuums that, in reality, may or may not exist. Such faith is what pushes science towards greater discoveries. Without it, we would still be teaching in science class that the earth is carried on the back of a turtle. So to say science is a religion is a somewhat misguided criticism. To say that science doesn&#8217;t benefit from faith and belief is equally errored.</p>
<p>3) Science cannot assign purpose and meaning to things. This must be relegated to the realm of philosophy and religion. To understand function without purpose and meaning is empty. To assign purpose and meaning without a desire to understand function is equally empty. In the context of these demarcations, science and religion complete our understandings of our internal and external worlds. Where they appear to differ in conclusion is a matter of our having attempted to answer a question using the wrong reference. </p>
<p>4) Most models and theories are built around beliefs that seek justification. Only when a model or theory is proven by empirical evidence and repeatable methods of observation (experiments) does it gain the status of knowledge (or fact). The philosopher Richard Kirkham offered perhaps the most concise definition of knowledge. It is where the â€œjustification for the belief must be infallible.â€ If any doubt exists or the belief is built on pseudo-evidence, the knowledge cannot be sustained and cannot be held as fact. So we must be careful about what we state as fact and knowledge for they may be only faith and belief.</p>
<p>Show me an individual who distains the contributions of science or religion and I&#8217;ll show you an arrogant, intolerant, and narrow minded person who understand neither.</p>
<p>Oh and yes, the dinosaurs were lucky. We are even luckier that their luck ran out. As an avid hiker and camper, Iâ€™m so relieved that I donâ€™t have to worry about being stalked by the likes of T-Rex when on the trail.</p>
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		<title>By: pcarborist</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/paleontologist-dinosaurs-not-special-just-lucky/comment-page-1#comment-5461</link>
		<dc:creator>pcarborist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;&#8220;According to a very accurate history book, the Bible,&lt;br /&gt;
dinosaurs appeared on the scene the same day people did:&#8221; &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Does that mean that Adam was a dinosaur jockey?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;According to a very accurate history book, the Bible,<br />
dinosaurs appeared on the scene the same day people did:&#8221; </p>
<p>Does that mean that Adam was a dinosaur jockey?</p>
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		<title>By: hillary</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/paleontologist-dinosaurs-not-special-just-lucky/comment-page-1#comment-5387</link>
		<dc:creator>hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;i believe in the loard jesus christ and josephU is so right and very smart with his bible verses, and for the rest of you maby and hopfully you can and will get saved all you have to say is jesus forgive me and come into my life and you have to make a change in yours to by doing whats right tell the truth and NO &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;COURSING&lt;/span&gt; after all of that you can and will see a change.Just rember this I &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CAN&lt;/span&gt; DO &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ALL&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THING&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THROUGH&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CHRIST&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;WHO&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;STREANTGES&lt;/span&gt; ME.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe in the loard jesus christ and josephU is so right and very smart with his bible verses, and for the rest of you maby and hopfully you can and will get saved all you have to say is jesus forgive me and come into my life and you have to make a change in yours to by doing whats right tell the truth and NO <span class="caps">COURSING</span> after all of that you can and will see a change.Just rember this I <span class="caps">CAN</span> DO <span class="caps">ALL</span> <span class="caps">THING</span> <span class="caps">THROUGH</span> <span class="caps">CHRIST</span> <span class="caps">WHO</span> <span class="caps">STREANTGES</span> ME.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruskiy</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/paleontologist-dinosaurs-not-special-just-lucky/comment-page-1#comment-5386</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruskiy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Science has not given answers either. You say &#8220;scientists believe&#8221; &#8220;scientists thorize&#8221;. Theres no proof that goes against the bible. Science is also a religion to some because a lot of it is based on postulates and axioms or theories. I doubt you have even a small education of science, you just assume its right. The thoery of evolution involves more belief then the theory of creation. If you have proof against it type down and ill try to prove it wrong.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science has not given answers either. You say &#8220;scientists believe&#8221; &#8220;scientists thorize&#8221;. Theres no proof that goes against the bible. Science is also a religion to some because a lot of it is based on postulates and axioms or theories. I doubt you have even a small education of science, you just assume its right. The thoery of evolution involves more belief then the theory of creation. If you have proof against it type down and ill try to prove it wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: brenna</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/paleontologist-dinosaurs-not-special-just-lucky/comment-page-1#comment-5381</link>
		<dc:creator>brenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;The above flood commenters are obviously part of a minority of creationists who are trying to drum up interest in obviously false theories by trying to take attention off legitimate science. I suspect they spend all day doing google searches on dinosaurs and then cutting and pasting their prepared Biblical &#8220;evidence.&#8221; This in no way contributes to discussion, and seems like a lame way to spend your time.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above flood commenters are obviously part of a minority of creationists who are trying to drum up interest in obviously false theories by trying to take attention off legitimate science. I suspect they spend all day doing google searches on dinosaurs and then cutting and pasting their prepared Biblical &#8220;evidence.&#8221; This in no way contributes to discussion, and seems like a lame way to spend your time.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/earth/paleontologist-dinosaurs-not-special-just-lucky/comment-page-1#comment-5352</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;My God ! I didn&#8217;t think there were still people still trusting the Bible as a &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;REAL&lt;/span&gt; account of past times !&lt;br /&gt;
From where does JosephU come from ?&lt;br /&gt;
Folks, comment on this.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God ! I didn&#8217;t think there were still people still trusting the Bible as a <span class="caps">REAL</span> account of past times !<br />
From where does JosephU come from ?<br />
Folks, comment on this.</p>
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