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	<title>Comments on: Neil Sampson says climate change speeding flux of forest ecosystems</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce McClure</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/biodiversity/climate-change-speeding-flux-of-forest-ecosystems/comment-page-1#comment-6448</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Hi Benjamin.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;You state, &#8220;Folks, the sun is dwindling in its activity and as a result, the earth is cooling.&#8221; Can you let me know what scientific studies have enabled you to make this sweeping statement? The sun&#8217;s energy output has to be measured by spacecraft outside of the Earth&#8217;s atmosphere, and these measurements in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.global-greenhouse-warming.com/solar-irradiance-measurements.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;total solar irradiance&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;TSI&lt;/span&gt;) have only been taken since the year 1979. May I quote in part what the site I submitted has to say, &#8220;To determine long-term changes in the Sun&#8217;s output, which may have time scales extending much longer than the 11-year solar cycle, the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;TSI&lt;/span&gt; climate record requires either very good absolute accuracy or very good instrument stability and continuous measurements. To date, no &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;TSI&lt;/span&gt; instrument has achieved the necesssary absolute accuracy, and the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;TSI&lt;/span&gt; record relies on measurement continuity from overlapping spacecraft instruments.&#8221; &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Happy New Year!&lt;br /&gt;
Bruce&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Benjamin.</p>
<p>You state, &#8220;Folks, the sun is dwindling in its activity and as a result, the earth is cooling.&#8221; Can you let me know what scientific studies have enabled you to make this sweeping statement? The sun&#8217;s energy output has to be measured by spacecraft outside of the Earth&#8217;s atmosphere, and these measurements in <a href="http://www.global-greenhouse-warming.com/solar-irradiance-measurements.html" rel="nofollow">total solar irradiance</a> (<span class="caps">TSI</span>) have only been taken since the year 1979. May I quote in part what the site I submitted has to say, &#8220;To determine long-term changes in the Sun&#8217;s output, which may have time scales extending much longer than the 11-year solar cycle, the <span class="caps">TSI</span> climate record requires either very good absolute accuracy or very good instrument stability and continuous measurements. To date, no <span class="caps">TSI</span> instrument has achieved the necesssary absolute accuracy, and the <span class="caps">TSI</span> record relies on measurement continuity from overlapping spacecraft instruments.&#8221; </p>
<p>Happy New Year!<br />
Bruce</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Napier</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/biodiversity/climate-change-speeding-flux-of-forest-ecosystems/comment-page-1#comment-6445</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Napier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;The climate is changing, as it always has. The term &#8220;climate change&#8221; has been subsituted for &#8220;global warming&#8221; because nature is proving capricicious once again and is failing to provide the proper response. Folks, the sun is dwindling is its activity and as a result, the earth is cooling.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;There is absolutely no influence of man on that. If you want something to fear, fear the totalitarian socialists that are at the head of the environmental movenment. The earth is fine.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The climate is changing, as it always has. The term &#8220;climate change&#8221; has been subsituted for &#8220;global warming&#8221; because nature is proving capricicious once again and is failing to provide the proper response. Folks, the sun is dwindling is its activity and as a result, the earth is cooling.</p>
<p>There is absolutely no influence of man on that. If you want something to fear, fear the totalitarian socialists that are at the head of the environmental movenment. The earth is fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruikun Wang</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/biodiversity/climate-change-speeding-flux-of-forest-ecosystems/comment-page-1#comment-6318</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruikun Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;It beyonds majority believes that climate change may destructe our forest ecosystems so gravely, but it is surely true. International society should cooperate together to relieve climate sufferingï¼Œfor our offspring and us, at the same time everybody should assure what we are doing is harmless to our climate.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It beyonds majority believes that climate change may destructe our forest ecosystems so gravely, but it is surely true. International society should cooperate together to relieve climate sufferingï¼Œfor our offspring and us, at the same time everybody should assure what we are doing is harmless to our climate.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
		<link>http://earthsky.org/biodiversity/climate-change-speeding-flux-of-forest-ecosystems/comment-page-1#comment-6173</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Earl Salmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 06:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>	&lt;p&gt;Dear Friends of the Earth &amp; Sky Community,&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;The human-induced predicament visible in our time to the family of humanity makes one thing clear: people with eyes to see, ears to hear and no speech impediments have got to speak out loudly, clearly and often now. Silence, the greatest power the rich and powerful possess, cannot be allowed to prevail. The reckless way a few people with wealth and power maintain a &#8220;golden&#8221; silence, one that protects their greed, gluttony and hoarding, is dangerous and cannot longer be endured because a good enough future for our children and coming generations is being mortgaged and threatened by these leading elders in my not-so-great generation. &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Regardless of whether or not other human beings choose to accept the &#8220;answers&#8221; to one question, I believe we must ask ourselves, &#8220;Can we teach one another to live within limits?&#8221; &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;It is necessary, I suppose, for human beings to recognize and affirm human limits&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1332674&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;and Earth&#8217;s limitations &lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYP/is_/ai_n15690553&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;To do otherwise and, by so doing, choose willfully and foolishly to ignore the practical requirements of biophysical reality runs the risk of putting life as we know it and our planetary home as a fit place for human habitation in peril, even in these early years of Century &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;XXI&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;Steven Earl Salmony&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;AWARE&lt;/span&gt;ness Campaign on The Human Population,&lt;br /&gt;
established 2001&lt;br /&gt;
http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends of the Earth &amp; Sky Community,</p>
<p>The human-induced predicament visible in our time to the family of humanity makes one thing clear: people with eyes to see, ears to hear and no speech impediments have got to speak out loudly, clearly and often now. Silence, the greatest power the rich and powerful possess, cannot be allowed to prevail. The reckless way a few people with wealth and power maintain a &#8220;golden&#8221; silence, one that protects their greed, gluttony and hoarding, is dangerous and cannot longer be endured because a good enough future for our children and coming generations is being mortgaged and threatened by these leading elders in my not-so-great generation. </p>
<p>Regardless of whether or not other human beings choose to accept the &#8220;answers&#8221; to one question, I believe we must ask ourselves, &#8220;Can we teach one another to live within limits?&#8221; </p>
<p>It is necessary, I suppose, for human beings to recognize and affirm human limits</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1332674" rel="nofollow">http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1332674</a></p>
<p>and Earth&#8217;s limitations </p>
<p><a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYP/is_/ai_n15690553" rel="nofollow">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYP/is_/ai_n15690553</a></p>
<p>To do otherwise and, by so doing, choose willfully and foolishly to ignore the practical requirements of biophysical reality runs the risk of putting life as we know it and our planetary home as a fit place for human habitation in peril, even in these early years of Century <span class="caps">XXI</span>.</p>
<p>Steven Earl Salmony<br />
<span class="caps">AWARE</span>ness Campaign on The Human Population,<br />
established 2001<br />
<a href="http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176" rel="nofollow">http://sustainabilityscience.org/content.html?contentid=1176</a></p>
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